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Noke Lieu
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Playing cards
« on: Aug 9th, 2004, 1:37am » |
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...and it got silly. Between games, a quick puzzle happened...
Got a few cards into a group.
2¢¾ 4¢¾ 8¢¾ 10¢¾ A¢¼ 4¢¼ 8¢¼ 2¢À 5¢À
And that leaves three diamonds. Which ones?
Have a follow up question, but it would give this puzzle away.
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #1 on: Aug 9th, 2004, 2:25am » |
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Are those charactere meant to be there? All I can see in my browser are numbers followed by cent then either an accented A or a fraction (3/4 or 1/4).
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #2 on: Aug 9th, 2004, 5:32am » |
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I'd guess that the strange symbols come from using an extended character set to get suit symbols. Personally, I'd use C,D,H,S to avoid this sort of problem...
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #3 on: Aug 9th, 2004, 6:35am » |
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You can also use images (click on 'view all symbols' under the symbol selection box, on the left of the message field, to see all possible symbols you can include, which is more than are available in the dropbox)
[smiley=clubsuit.gif] [smiley=spadesuit.gif] [smiley=heartsuit.gif] [smiley=diamondsuit.gif]
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Noke Lieu
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #4 on: Aug 9th, 2004, 4:32pm » |
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Awfully sorry- was pulled away from the computer to attend a dinner with politicians. Really.
Well noticed (it wasn't looking like that when I logged out).
The group is:
2[smiley=heartsuit.gif] 4[smiley=heartsuit.gif] 8[smiley=heartsuit.gif] 10[smiley=heartsuit.gif] A[smiley=spadesuit.gif] 4[smiley=spadesuit.gif] 8[smiley=spadesuit.gif] 2[smiley=clubsuit.gif]
changed my mind about 5C
Oh, and the order doesnt matter and : It'd be different in french
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #5 on: Aug 13th, 2004, 2:58pm » |
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Frankly I don't understand the question. Noke can you rephrase in normal english? 
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Noke Lieu
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #6 on: Aug 14th, 2004, 7:04pm » |
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fair enough. 
There exists a reason that 11 cards can be considered to be in a group. Quite a punishing puzzle.
2[smiley=heartsuit.gif] 4[smiley=heartsuit.gif] 8[smiley=heartsuit.gif] 10[smiley=heartsuit.gif] A[smiley=spadesuit.gif] 4[smiley=spadesuit.gif] 8[smiley=spadesuit.gif] 2[smiley=clubsuit.gif]
?[smiley=diamondsuit.gif] ?[smiley=diamondsuit.gif] ?[smiley=diamondsuit.gif]
the list that was given is missing the diamonds. Which diamonds are they?
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #7 on: Sep 12th, 2004, 11:37pm » |
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Hmmn. Either
A) I haven't explained it well,
B) you've forgotten.
C) you're all stumped.
In which case...
B) this post acts as a reminder.
A) The cards mentioned differ from all the other standard cards for a very silly reason. What is the reason?
Which diamonds are missing?
C) Hmmmn, lets see. 22 July 1844 - 29 August 1930
WAS that enough?
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #8 on: Sep 13th, 2004, 6:08am » |
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A, 2, 4
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #9 on: Sep 13th, 2004, 2:56pm » |
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Does it have to be a particular deck of cards, or would any (or at least the most usual) design work?
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Noke Lieu
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #10 on: Sep 13th, 2004, 9:06pm » |
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on Sep 13th, 2004, 6:08am, John_Gaughan wrote:
Correct on one of them.
Grimbal...
Standard deck of cards. 52 per deck. Jokers don't work.
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #11 on: Sep 14th, 2004, 8:58am » |
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So I guess symmetry is not part of the relation...
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Based on a google of your last clue, I think I know the reasoning, but no diamonds would seem to fit (unless you use an alternative that you didn't use for the other suits), and I can't figure out why the 5 of hearts and king of clubs weren't included.
The closest answer I can come up with would be 2, 8, 10 of diamonds.
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #13 on: Sep 15th, 2004, 11:40pm » |
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Didn't notice the 5H. good work.
KingC- that stays the same..
The diamonds a a bit... blurry. But they still work, especially as I don't pronounce the last d in diamonds- it sounds more like diremans...
So, asterix, as you seem to be in the minority, you can have the extension. Can you find any that the meaning doesn't just change, it actually becomes the opposite? I tried it once, found it hard, started watching tv...
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #14 on: Sep 16th, 2004, 12:31am » |
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Man this is impossible without that clue and if i am right .... i still don't understand how five of hearts fits?
one more question to just know whether i got things right, ::does King of Clubs satisfy ur second question?::
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It must be your accent. I pronounce diamonds die munz, which to me sounds nothing at all like dire mans. As for the king of clubs, the way I considered it, it doesn't stay the same.
To your follow up, were you thinking something along the lines of "first of the wines" (not a real opposite, but is that what you're looking for?)
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Noke Lieu
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #16 on: Sep 16th, 2004, 6:34pm » |
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Okay, I accept king of clubs. Clumsy me, can be such a cupid stunt sometimes. 
The diamonds thing:
The a in mans is a schwa, so I could happily write diremunz- I was just trying to give a clue.... (its whether you keep the a in there or not)
Tenaliman, admittedly you'd have to have the mind of a fictional detective to spot it, but refering to it as a "punishing" puzzle was the original clue...
first of the wines is okay... there MUST be better.
I love "missed the post". not quite an opposite either, but you could construe a situation where it happened. Target practice, for example.
Fill with spool...?
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #17 on: Sep 17th, 2004, 5:50am » |
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #18 on: Jan 30th, 2005, 11:03pm » |
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heh- came up with a ...causal... one? flummox stew
Not a bad one grimbal. Shame it's so close to my signature...
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #19 on: Jan 31st, 2005, 1:09pm » |
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on Jan 30th, 2005, 11:03pm, Noke Lieu wrote:
What a cunning stunt! Shame few people will notice...
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #20 on: Jan 31st, 2005, 2:18pm » |
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But I LOVE yours, Thud. It's great. I wonder how many others we gloss over and/or don't get. For example, it took me many weeks to notice the Sir Col pun.
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #21 on: Feb 1st, 2005, 6:58am » |
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Same with tseuG. Or THUDandBLUNDER.
And my name doesn't have anything to do with a hypothetical peculiar coloration of anything related to me. 
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Re: Playing cards
« Reply #22 on: Feb 1st, 2005, 7:10am » |
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tseuG?
I know he used to be a regular poster, but is he just a pheasant plucker or is he a smart fella, too?
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