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White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)   White_Finishes_Game_in_2_Moves.jpg
« on: May 24th, 2004, 5:46am »
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In the position below with White to move, he successfully wagers that he will finish the game within two moves (each).  
 
What was his next move?  
 
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #1 on: May 24th, 2004, 5:58am »
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Did he perhaps "finish" the game by reaching a tie?
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #2 on: May 24th, 2004, 6:03am »
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I can finish it in one move total - White resigns...
 
I suspect that's not the intended answer though Smiley
 
My guess would be that he finishes by ::losing to checkmate::
 
[e]Silly me... he finishes by ::stalemate::
 
Specifically ::Kxg3, e1(forced), Qxe1 Stalemate::[/e]
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #3 on: May 24th, 2004, 6:19am »
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My chess knowledge is not what it should be, but...
 
Can the King go to G3?  That would intentionally put the King directly into check from the pawn at H2.  According to the rules by which I have always played, this is not allowed.
 
I believe, were I white, I could get a Mate in 3.
 
 
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #4 on: May 24th, 2004, 6:33am »
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Silly me

rmsgrey, 1. Kxg3 is answered by 1.....dxf1 = N+, with no end in sight.
 
Even 1....dxf1 = Q wins the wager.  
 
1. Kxg3   dxf1 = Q
2. Qe3+  Qf2
3. Qxf2 mate
 
BNC, you have the right idea but the clock is ticking.  Wink
 
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #5 on: May 24th, 2004, 6:38am »
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on May 24th, 2004, 6:19am, evergreena3 wrote:

Can the King go to G3?  That would intentionally put the King directly into check from the pawn at H2.  According to the rules by which I have always played, this is not allowed.
 
I believe, were I white, I could get a Mate in 3.
 
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The White king can go to g3 because the pawn on h2 is moving down the board.  
 
Mate in 3 would lose the wager.
 
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #6 on: May 24th, 2004, 7:11am »
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on May 24th, 2004, 6:33am, THUDandBLUNDER wrote:

rmsgrey, 1. Kxg3 is answered by 1.....dxf1 = N+, with no end in sight.

Sillier me...  Embarassed
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #7 on: May 24th, 2004, 8:20am »
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How about this?
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Bishop to g2
King takes Bishop
Queen takes Rook
King takes Queen.  
White can't move - stalemate.
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Guess that's one is not guaranteed though..... Angry
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #8 on: May 24th, 2004, 8:28am »
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::Qe5+   Kxf1
Qg1+    Rxg1 (or Pawn or K)
stalemate
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #9 on: May 24th, 2004, 8:58am »
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I'm guessing you mean Qc5+ or Qe3+ for your first move...
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #10 on: May 24th, 2004, 9:06am »
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2 ... Kxg1
3 Kxg3...
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« Reply #11 on: May 24th, 2004, 9:29am »
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on May 24th, 2004, 8:58am, Three Hands wrote:
I'm guessing you mean

 
Yeah, either or. Sorry.
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #12 on: May 24th, 2004, 9:31am »
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on May 24th, 2004, 9:06am, rmsgrey wrote:
2 ... Kxg1
3 Kxg3...

 
Dang.  Undecided
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #13 on: May 24th, 2004, 9:45am »
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How about queen to e1, black must move the g3 pawn to g2, then pawn to f2, checkmate.
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #14 on: May 24th, 2004, 9:52am »
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on May 24th, 2004, 9:45am, Benoit_Mandelbrot wrote:
...black must move the g3 pawn to g2, ....

Or pawn from E2 to F1...
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #15 on: May 24th, 2004, 9:59am »
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True too.  I didn't see that one.
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« Reply #16 on: May 24th, 2004, 10:00am »
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on May 24th, 2004, 9:45am, Benoit_Mandelbrot wrote:
How about queen to e1, black must move the g3 pawn to g2, then pawn to f2, checkmate.

 
You have the white pawn moving backwards from f3 to f2.
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #17 on: May 24th, 2004, 10:25am »
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LOL! OOPS!  The black king in whites corner is screwing me up!
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« Reply #18 on: May 24th, 2004, 7:35pm »
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Thud wrote:
 
rmsgrey, 1. Kxg3 is answered by 1.....dxf1 = N+, with no end in sight.  
 
Even 1....dxf1 = Q wins the wager.  
 
1. Kxg3   dxf1 = Q  
2. Qe3+  Qf2  
3. Qxf2 mate  
 
 
1. Kxg3   dxf1 = Q  
2. f2++
 
would be within two moves
 
1. Qe1 g2
2. Bxe2++
 
or
 
1. Qe1 exf3 = Q (or anything)
2. Qxf3+ Kxf3 stalemate
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #19 on: May 24th, 2004, 7:57pm »
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1. Kxg3   dxf1 = Q  
2. f2++  
 
would be within two moves

....if the White pawn were moving down the board?
 
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1. Qe1 exf3 = Q (or anything)  
2. Qxf3+ Kxf3 stalemate

TYPO ALERT:  
 
You mean 1....exf1  
 
AND
 
1. Q(e1) x f3 is impossible.
 
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« Reply #20 on: May 24th, 2004, 8:54pm »
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Yes, if the white pawns were moving down the board  Huh
 
Also, f3 should have been f1 throughout.. double oops!
 
1. Qe1 exf1 = Q (or anything)  
2. Qxf1+ Kxf1 stalemate  
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« Reply #21 on: May 24th, 2004, 9:02pm »
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1. Qe1 exf1 = Q (or anything)    
2. Qxf1+ Kxf1 stalemate  

3. King takes Yawn on g3  
 
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #22 on: May 24th, 2004, 9:44pm »
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T&B Saw you'd posted. Thought you should be alseep. Guess so....
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #23 on: May 24th, 2004, 11:02pm »
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What about (following Leon's line):
 
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Qe3+   Kxf1  
Qf2+    Kxf2
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Re: White Finishes Game in Two Moves (Chess)  
« Reply #24 on: May 25th, 2004, 3:55am »
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Can't spot anything wrong with that one, Barukh. Well spotted
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