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The Snapsinski Test of Responsiveness, Intelligence, Perceptivity and Elucidation (more commonly known as Snaps' TRIPE) is used to examine a person's excogitations of insensate disquisitions, inter alia (ie. a person's thoughts about senseless babble, among other things). Question 9 of Snaps' TRIPE is shown below.
"Question 9: Sort the following list of 16 words into four groups, with four words in each group. Clearly explain why you decided to group the words in such a way. The words are:
anvil, care, cream, crime, elect, entry, hall, lung, mash, pelt, quash, scene, trail, wept, wine, word"
Of the many hundereds of thousands of people who have attempted to understand Snaps' TRIPE only one person, Mr. Richard Shunary, received full marks on this question. He sorted the words into the following groups.
Group 1: entry, mash, quash, wept
Group 2: anvil, crime, scene, trail
Group 3: hall, lung, pelt, wine
Group 4: care, cream, elect, word
Can you explain why he grouped the words in this way?
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« Reply #1 on: May 15th, 2003, 2:55am » |
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Each group is alphabetical.
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« Reply #2 on: May 15th, 2003, 3:25am » |
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on May 15th, 2003, 2:55am, Speaker wrote:| Each group is alphabetical. |
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I don't think this is enough to "clearly explain" the grouping, as there are many other possible groupings with this property.
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Partial answer, the words in group two are the only ones that can't form a new word by adding an s to the beginning
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Re: Tripe
« Reply #4 on: May 15th, 2003, 10:10am » |
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tohuvabohu, should that be group 1?
Another partial: The whole group 4 set is the only set of words that can all end with 'ed' -- cared, creamed, elected, worded.
Don't even know if this is going in the right direction...
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Re: Tripe
« Reply #5 on: May 15th, 2003, 10:13am » |
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« Reply #6 on: May 15th, 2003, 10:16am » |
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on May 15th, 2003, 10:10am, MattyDK23 wrote:| tohuvabohu, should that be group 1? |
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No, it shouldn't. Read the hidden part of tohuvabohu's post again.
Quote:| Another partial: The whole group 4 set is the only set of words that [hidden] |
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Wouldn't "trail" fit better than "care" in this case?
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« Reply #7 on: May 15th, 2003, 10:18am » |
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on May 15th, 2003, 10:13am, MattyDK23 wrote:| Another partial: [hidden] |
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Hm. What was tohuvabohu's suggestion again? 
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« Reply #8 on: May 15th, 2003, 10:25am » |
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My bad...I read it as this partial solution:
the words in group one are the only ones that can't form a new word by adding an s to the end
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« Reply #9 on: May 15th, 2003, 10:37am » |
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on May 15th, 2003, 10:16am, wowbagger wrote:
Wouldn't "trail" fit better than "care" in this case? |
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Group 1 has mash and quash...group 2, trail...group 3, lung and pelt. They're all 'better fits'...
But I think 'care' still fits the criteria. Cared still ends in 'ed', after all...
In addition, with group 4, all the words match the criteria. Groups 1-3 can't say that.
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Along the same line: Group 4 is the only set that can have an s added to both the beginning and the end at the same time
So I suppose the definition for Group 3 is those words that can add an s to either the beginning or the end but not both
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« Reply #11 on: May 15th, 2003, 10:56am » |
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So group one would be words that can only be prefixed by "s", while the words in group two can only take an extra "s" as a suffix.
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This is cute.
group 1 can take only prefix s to create new word
group 2 can take only suffix s ..."
group 3 can take either prefix or suffix
group 4 can take BOTH at once.
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« Reply #14 on: Feb 29th, 2004, 2:25am » |
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Nice puzzles, maryl. However, the word, swines, although practically obsolete now, is an acceptable plural form.
It seems that words in that group are rare. Perhaps we could present the challenge...
List as many words in the English language as you can that remain good words if you add an s as,
(i) a prefix, a suffix, or both.
(ii) a prefix or a suffix, but not both.
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« Reply #15 on: Mar 1st, 2004, 9:45pm » |
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Here are some that can take S as a prefix suffix or both.
wipe
tun
lump
trap
hit
wish can only take a suffix
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« Reply #16 on: Mar 2nd, 2004, 5:45am » |
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on Mar 1st, 2004, 9:45pm, Speaker wrote:| wish can only take a suffix |
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wishs (invalid form of "wishes")?
or swish (sound of a basketball going through the hoop)?
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« Reply #17 on: Mar 2nd, 2004, 8:10am » |
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on Mar 1st, 2004, 9:45pm, Speaker wrote:
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I am sure you meant prefix !!!
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« Reply #18 on: Mar 2nd, 2004, 8:39am » |
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As no one has managed to find any more exclusive or examples, here are some of the ones I found: adder, aid, edition, haven, lender, mitten, pelt, tout, urging. I found about forty altogether. There are many more and/or types.
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« Reply #19 on: Mar 2nd, 2004, 8:54am » |
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on Mar 2nd, 2004, 8:39am, Sir Col wrote:| As no one has managed to find any more exclusive or examples, here are some of the ones I found: adder, aid, edition, haven, lender, mitten, pelt, tout, urging. I found about forty altogether. There are many more and/or types. |
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How about "stouts," as in "those Guinesses."
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« Reply #20 on: Mar 2nd, 2004, 10:20am » |
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Good point, John! Although it does lower the number I found, I've learned a lesson: going slower in posting answers to problems like this lowers risk of error.
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« Reply #21 on: Mar 2nd, 2004, 5:07pm » |
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Yes, I meant prefix, must go slow more quickly, to reduce lowerings of mistakes.
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« Reply #22 on: Mar 2nd, 2004, 7:18pm » |
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like it.
Trundling through a dictionary, I notice saxe is a specific colour of dye.
Given its a specific colour, I'd argue it'd tough to give it a plural. That means AXE fits.
also, just above it, sax turns out to be "slater's chopper" (don't know how slater feels about that)
forget how Americans make this plural.
what about chilling?
Can't put an S after UNTIL you put an S before. any others?
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« Reply #23 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 7:50pm » |
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Here's quick list of XORs. Not confident on some of them...
hat
hod
hone
hook
hoon (archaic shoed)
horn
hearing
ex
pate?
pinning?
tale
call
law, and maze- as long as you accept slaw is slaw , and can't have two different sorts...
malt, molt, mote,
able?
ward?
wank?
wink? they might be ANDs, but it would just feel wrong. 
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