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Finding repetitions in an array (constant space)  
« on: Feb 6th, 2004, 12:11pm »
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   You have a read-only array A[1..n] which is populated by numbers from 1..n-1, which implies atleast one repetition. However, there can be more. Find any one repeated number in linear time using constant space.
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Re: Finding repetitions in an array (constant spac  
« Reply #1 on: Feb 6th, 2004, 12:19pm »
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Is the array sorted, such that ai >= ai-1?
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Re: Finding repetitions in an array (constant spac  
« Reply #2 on: Feb 6th, 2004, 4:51pm »
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Re: Finding repetitions in an array (constant spac  
« Reply #3 on: Feb 7th, 2004, 4:40am »
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if there was exactly one repetition you could find the answer by adding all the numbers and subtract n(n-1)/2
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Re: Finding repetitions in an array (constant spac  
« Reply #4 on: Feb 7th, 2004, 8:32am »
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  Yes. However, in this case, the repetitions can be more than one (and there has to be atleast one).
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Re: Finding repetitions in an array (constant spac  
« Reply #5 on: Feb 7th, 2004, 11:41pm »
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So we have an array of arbitrary length, unsorted, and we need to find the duplicates. Furthermore, the algorithm must be O(1) and use a fixed amount of space. Okay, the space requirement is possible, although it would be tight. But searching an unsorted array in O(1) time is impossible. Even O(log(n)) is tough for unsorted data, but it depends on the application.
 
This means that the algorithm cannot depend on the size of the array, so it cannot search all the elements or even a subset of elements that depends on the size of the array (like n/2 elements or log(n) elements). So, without searching all of the unsorted elements, I have to find the duplicates.
 
I'm stuck, anyone else have an idea?
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 8th, 2004, 7:10am »
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   The algorithm can depend on the size of the array. I never said O(1) is the constraint for time. It's the space that has to be constant. The algorithm has to run in linear time O(n).
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Re: Finding repetitions in an array (constant spac  
« Reply #7 on: Feb 8th, 2004, 7:49am »
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::I'm thinking, swap..
start with a[1], swap a[1] with a[a[1]] untill a[1]=1, then go on with a[2] etc.  
at some point you'll have an a[k]=m and a[m]=m (m!=k) and thus a repetition..
(It needs to be fleshed out a bit more, but I'm sure you get the gest)
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« Reply #8 on: Feb 8th, 2004, 8:29am »
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Are we allowed to change A ?
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Re: Finding repetitions in an array (constant spac  
« Reply #9 on: Feb 8th, 2004, 9:02am »
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   towr, could you explain your solution in more detail? How is the final condition a[m] = m and a[k] = m (k!=m) going to be checked so that the total time is still linear? Further, the array should not be modified. Sorry for missing that in my first post.
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Re: Finding repetitions in an array (constant spac  
« Reply #10 on: Feb 8th, 2004, 10:05am »
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Here's a MOO-version of the algorithm
Code:
a=args;
n=length(a);
 
for i in [1..n]
  while (a[i] != i)
    s=a[i];
    if(a[s] != s)
      a[i]=a[s];
      a[s]=s;
    else                  
      return s;
    endif
  endwhile
endfor

There are at most 2n comparisons: once for every number not in it's own place and once after it has been put there. (Of course it must be less than 2n  unless there are no repetitions)
 
Of course if we can't change a, then this is moot.. Still I think it's a nice solution.
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 8th, 2004, 10:41am »
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Here's another nice but tricky solution..
Take the product of (the first) n primes, [prod]i=1nprimei, and then for i from 1 to n divide by primea[i] until this doesn't yield an integer..
The tricky part is justifying where you get those n primes.. Tongue
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Re: Finding repetitions in an array (constant spac  
« Reply #12 on: Feb 8th, 2004, 6:20pm »
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on Feb 8th, 2004, 7:10am, tseuG wrote:
The algorithm can depend on the size of the array. I never said O(1) is the constraint for time. It's the space that has to be constant. The algorithm has to run in linear time O(n).

Sorry, I just reread the original post... hooked on phonics didn't work for me Wink
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Re: Finding repetitions in an array (constant spac  
« Reply #13 on: Feb 9th, 2004, 5:56am »
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That's a great puzzle! All my friends to whom I presented it, are blowing their brains  Grin
 
on Feb 8th, 2004, 9:02am, tseuG wrote:
Further, the array should not be modified. Sorry for missing that in my first post.

tseuG, let me clarify this point: do you mean no changes are allowed in the array, or that the contents should be the same at the end of the algorithm (that is more relaxed)?
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on Feb 8th, 2004, 10:41am, towr wrote:
Here's another nice but tricky solution..
Take the product of (the first) n primes, [prod]i=1nprimei, and then for i from 1 to n divide by primea[i] until this doesn't yield an integer..
The tricky part is justifying where you get those n primes.. Tongue

I don't think this product fits the constant space requirement either...  Wink
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Re: Finding repetitions in an array (constant spac  
« Reply #15 on: Feb 9th, 2004, 6:02am »
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   Barukh, it's a read-only array.
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on Feb 9th, 2004, 5:58am, Barukh wrote:
I don't think this product fits the constant space requirement either...  Wink
meh, unlimited space seems constant enough Tongue
But seriously, without limitations on n, or the size of integers there's really no way to tell.. For unlimited n there will allways be these kinds of problems..
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« Reply #17 on: Feb 10th, 2004, 6:12am »
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on Feb 9th, 2004, 6:02am, tseuG wrote:
   Barukh, it's a read-only array.

Well, it seems at this point I will ask for a hint...  Shocked
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« Reply #18 on: Feb 15th, 2004, 12:59pm »
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This was another approach, I was thinking.  

Start from a[1] and visit a[a[1]] and then go on a[a[a[1]]] until you visit the same index again.  
Eg: A[1] = 2, A[2] = 4, A[4] = 6, A[6] = 2
 
Then you would be visiting A[2] twice in your path. Formally if you join the vertices i, a[i], a[a[i]], if the path is a cycle that starts with i and traces back to i. You can say the repeated number is i. But this method will not work if you start with 1 and end up with 1 (where 1 is the index).  
 
Ofcourse, still the storage space is of the order O(n) as you need atleast n bits to store if you have visited a particular index twice or not.  
 

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on Feb 15th, 2004, 12:59pm, Corleone wrote:
This was another approach, I was thinking.

You have a good idea with treating it like a digraph. It would take linear memory, but I think you're on the right track.
 
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« Reply #20 on: Feb 23rd, 2004, 9:40am »
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Tseug, thanks for this nice problem.  And thanks for not hasting to post a solution.  Here's a hint for those who want it:
 
::When I start my super_linear_time_const_space_find_rep_alg(), it starts iterating through the array (obviously).  The hint is: it DOES matter which element it starts with.  I mean the index.::
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Lets say range is not given i.e if array elements are not in btn 1..n.  Is there a soln keeping all constraints as the original problem ?
 
 
 
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« Reply #22 on: Feb 24th, 2004, 11:41pm »
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I believe this works:
int x = n, y = n;
do {x = A[A[x]]; y = A[y];} while (x!=y);
x = n;
do {x = A[x]; y = A[y];} while (x!=y);
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on Feb 24th, 2004, 11:41pm, Rezyk wrote:
I believe this works:
int x = n, y = n;
do {x = A[A[x]]; y = A[y];} while (x!=y);
x = n;
do {x = A[x]; y = A[y];} while (x!=y);
return x;

 
Oh, no, you stole my code for super_linear_time_const_space_find_rep_alg()!  Damn those opensource advocates.
 
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Re: Finding repetitions in an array (constant spac  
« Reply #24 on: Feb 26th, 2004, 1:13am »
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Brilliant!!! Bravo, Rezyk and NoNothing (who claims to be the inventor of the code  Grin)!
 
By the way, can you prove that the code is correct? It's not obvious... I believe I've got a demonstration.
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